Thread starter Lozzer; Start date Apr 11, 2019; Lozzer Member. With a wrench tighten the plug very lightly until it stops and is only snug with the pan. Spray penetrating oil on the oil plug and leave it to sit for several hours. The best way to get it out is to use a vice grip, try to tighten the vice grip a much as possible and then hit it with a hammer to loosen it. Locate the drain plug and turn it counter clockwise. That's what I've done with mine and they've been fine. I replaced my sump pan last year due to the old one being as rusty as hell. My garage managed not to tighten the sump plug enough and fresh oil has now leaked onto my drive? With a number of short journeys, the oil wouldn't have gotten warm enough to heat the metal plug … make sure your turning the right way and if it don,t come use a cheater pipe on the ratchet. This was stressful, to say the least, and it created a bit of a mess wherever he parked the car. Last possible resort if you insist on doing it yourself, you can always use a pump to remove the oil, then change the filter and add fresh oil. no worse than vw using silicone sealant to seal sumps with! What could happen if you overtighten that? If I  use high heat paint like for car motor  can I  use my air dry clay . Put the new washer on the plug and screw it in by hand as far as you can. Remember - Lefty loosey, righty tighty. Thanks for that. Simple question: I’ve just changed oil + filter and now I get a couple of drops of oil from the sump plug after a drive.... suspect that it is eithe ... And "hand tight" is not tight enough for a sump plug. Welding on a nut is the most sensible solution. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. But sump plugs on 'ordinary' vehicles, no, shouldn't be needed. Remember - Lefty loosey, righty tighty. Rapidly becoming the largest and most active club of Polo enthusiasts in the UK. Trick I used from doing bikes was, to reuse the copper washer, heat it up on the hob in your kitchen until its glowing red, then allow to air cool. Club Polo and the Club Polo website are in no way affiliated with or endorsed by Volkswagen AG or any of it's worldwide subsidiaries or associates. (left to loosen, right to tighten) As for the sump plug, is it really so tight? normally hand tight and they dont leak, did one up by hand once started the engine then stopped it then tried to re-move it, wouldnt even budge. try putting a bit of oil around the seal of the oil filters. Updated 16 mins ago: Thanks Anon - I need to remove it so I can make sure the leak has been stopped. save the seal catching and causing a shit seal. In fact, a good pump can save a homeowner thousands of dollars in potential flood damage repair. 6 January, 2010 in Engine, Transmission and Exhaust. Continue to tighten it, until you can not turn it anymore. Use a breaker bar and a proper fitting socket. 00.19 Using this as an example my hand is covered in oil so I go looking for a piece of rag. Sump pumps perform an invaluable service in homes and basements that are prone to flooding. The Self Threading Metal Oil Pan Drain Plug . Have another bolt and gasket handy as well. I could really tighten it, but what if it starts leaking again? Post Apr 20, 2019 #8 2019-04-20T16:09. Okay, another question. Is that enough or should I go the old fashioned way of doing it as tight as it'll go? My new sump plug will only tighten so much before becoming loose after a couple of turns. I do the sump plugs up the same as spark plugs, if they use a sealing washer then tighten by hand, then half a turn with a ratchet (180 degrees). The new sump pan and composite gasket are great and a perfect fit and came with a sump plug already fitted and torqued and it had what looked like thread lock on it. Discussion Starter • #1 • Jan 25, 2017. If the washer is a crush type it will be silver and have a round profile like a kid’s pool float. Additionally, the localised heat generated will also go some way to breaking the bond between the threads. Is there anyting i can do - Answered by a verified Motorcycle Mechanic. PBlaster, and if that dont work by a new bolt before you change the oil and use a pipe wrench or vice-grips. Replaced the plug and no more leak. if you want to drain the oil use a 6 point socket and ratchet. I could hardly get a grip on it and it ended up leaking after a month. Messages 1,456. We have a 98 Mk1 1.2 8v and a 2005 1.2 8V and both have sump plugs whith a female hex socket. Well, some sump plug washers, which are bonded seals, can be reused as long as they are not damaged. 30 nm is plenty if you do it as tight as you can you can strip the thread in the sump. Temptation was to try to tighten it further; fortunately I … Additionally, some sump plug washers can be replaced by bonded seal washers. Terms of Use Privacy Policy Guidelines. Light/Dark Mode Enabled: You can now select the option by clicking the moon/lightbulb in the top right corner! Do this with your fingers first, to maintain alignment. Hammering a socket onto a sump plug is a stupid idea. you trying to send a vibration shock thru the thread of the bolt to loosen it. :) Marea 2.0 20v FIATcentral window sticker 20th Anniversary - The Polo Social is a social event every year that is put on by Club Polo which is open to all VW Polo owners from any Club. There is also a number of pages detailing the discounts and merchandise available through the club and links to other related sites. This is, of course, assuming that there isn't a hole in your oil pan! Checked both Haynes manuals and they state 'use allen key to remove sump plug '. Page 2- Tightening Oil Sump Drain plug. Will I be able to repair my leaking roof on my own? Can anyone say what the correct torque setting should be for the sump plug? The plug shouldn't have been tightened so much that it is stuck. The one I have is a double ended gizmo (12mm one end and10mm the other I think) that fits in a … Sump plugs generally do not get 'torqued up'. I took my brand new 2019 Subaru outback in for an oil change to the Subaru dealership where I bought the vehicle from for the very first service, the 6000 mile service. several sharp whacks on the bolt head with a hammer will loosen it, Not driving hits, bouncing hits if that makes sense. The hot oil will begin to pour out. Garage then tightened up sump drain plug. The sump plug may have been overtightened in the past which damaged/weakened the thread. Replace the washer on the plug if fitted. Notice to Hotmail/Gmail & BT Internet users - Please check your SPAM/JUNK folders for our emails. Mate it should be a hex socket, had a look and I think its diesels and maybe HGTs that can have a bolt with washer. Be patient and wait for it to ‘catch’ the metal. Or can I somehow destroy the washer this way? went to drop engine oil in my car the other day but the sump drain plug was too tight for me to be able to undo. Motors Or can I somehow destroy the washer this way? Until we could come up with another solution, he had to tighten the rubber plug on a daily basis, check the oil, and perhaps add some more if the level was low. Well, that takes some weight off my shoulders. You can feel it crush as you pull the wrench and probably see it too. Not much but enough to leave a drop every few days. I do the sump plugs up the same as spark plugs, if they use a sealing washer then tighten by hand, then half a turn with a ratchet (180 degrees). 7 Posts . Use a Hammer. Has anyone got the torque settings for a 3.2 did pajero sump plug? You can sign in to vote the answer. Ensure that all the old oil goes into the pan. Run the plug down with your hand until it stops flush with the oil pan. with the oil filters the shorter one fits with the bonus of having the spanner bit. hence leaks. Please add our email as a contact to your email account. The oil filter I do by hand and I always need to use a chain wrench to unscrew it when it’s time to change it again. Guest MehMan, Use jacks to make it easier on yourself or use a creepy crawler. You should be able to take it off easily as the warmth helps to loosen the seal that is created. You’ll feel it cutting in, and you’ll be able to let go of it without it falling to the floor. You reckon i should untighten it a bit? Doing this will likely re-strip the plug. Some mechanics over tighten oil filters and sump plugs .. so you cant take the off yourself and you take it back to them to do. Then tighten the plug 1/4 turn. All you'll do is get the mallet to bounce back in your face. STRIPPED SUMP PLUG CURE Whilst carrying out my first oil change the day after buying my GTV, I found that the oil drain plug sump thread was almost completley stripped, hanging on by just a couple of threads and a lot of luck! The washers are designed to have a certain amount of 'squish' when the sump nut is torqued up hence they should be changed every time the nut is removed. A crush washer is found beneath every oil drain plug. 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Do not overtighten, or it will stripthe threads. The fuel sump is factory set to 58 psi. I used an aftermarket oil filter the last oil change and it was a longlife one, so it was twice as long as a standard VW filter. Do not tighten the plug to more than 40 nm’s or 29.5 ft/lbs of torque. Line up the thread tap, perpendicular to the hole. Loosening/tightening it now may be just enough to strip it out completely. Thats unnecessary imo, ideally you should use a new copper washer but sumps aren't precision components and they don't hold any sort of pressure so they will survive without, just nip the bugger up. Where you plug in the socket, use the wrench to loosen the plug in a counterclockwise direction. Yeah, things like that just need to seal. Personally I would not take any risk and repair the thread in the sump. I used an original VW filter now and it's much better! The plug shouldn't have been tightened so much that it is stuck. Even the best pump, however, cannot perform its job if the drainage/discharge pipe is blocked. Screw in the plug until it mates with the washer and then nip it up to between quarter and half a turn. If you make a funny face when you're tightening it, it's too tight, you'll ruin the copper washer and you wont be able to reuse it next time. What about the oil filter? I am a bit paranoid about either over tightening and stripping the sump plug or the sump itself , or not tightening it enough and the plug unscrewing so draining the oil and wrecking the engine. I would need to wait before i can get … As for sump plug, as said above, do it tight-ish, but don't strain yourself doing it up too much. I put the sump bolt back in and tighten it up..... Only it does not tighten Sump plugs, I wind in till they go tight by hand, and then a half turn on a ratchet or until it feels tight. Sump plug torque settings 11-03-12, 02:56 PM. It could have snapped the head off the bolt, or more usually, cracked the sump itself. I took the car to another garage for something else (continual smell of fumes around the car) yesterday and they phoned up saying the sump drain plug was loose and oil was dripping onto the exhaust. Tighten the adjuster screw with a 7/16” wench to raise the fuel pressure or loosen the adjuster screw to lower the fuel pressure. 11-03-12, 05:19 PM. Drain plug beforehand 2011-09-14 11.15.25 by help212, on Flickr Old washer and New washer 2011-09-14 11.28.23 by help212, on Flickr Afterwards 2011-09-14 11.35.40 by help212, on Flickr If the oil has been changed recently, you should have no problems removing it. 0. reply. Could I've made it leak by overtightening it? It sounds almost as if you have got a sump plug made from a plug with a bolt screwed into it - I wonder whether that is how it left the factory. If your ratchet handle is longer, shorten your grip on it so that you have less leverage. Take out a hammer, get under your car, and tap it with the hammer. Once relaxed, you can use your hand and remove the plug. Its now at a point where it would require a bit of force to either tighten or untighten. 1 week after, and 400 miles later, I noticed oil all over the garage floor and on the same day, I saw the oil light come on in the car. Hi everyone, I purchased my first new car this January, a Subaru Outback 2019. How do you think about the answers? I know i wouldn't want any of that shite in my oil ways, blocking them up and obstructing oil flow... Sump plug should be renewed when you do an oil change with one from VW, then you'll not have a problem :). 2. In these instances, you don’t have to keep changing them. As for the sump plug, is it really so tight? It doesn't drip, but if I wipe it off I can see the oil. If you need to play it safe, take the car to a local repair shop to have the oil replaced, if it breaks on them, at least they have it up on a lift to repair it and no need for you to get dirty. The Club was formed by the amalgamation of the Polo GT/Coupe S Owners Club and the Polo Coupe Owners Club back in 2000. Sign up for a new account in our community. dolphin. Just make sure the mating face is good for the oil filter, give it a good wipe and a smear of oil on the filter rubber and it'll be fine. Adjust the fuel pressure by loosening the jam nut on the regulator with a 9/16” wrench. Link to post. pedrn. If you run the car engine whilst its parked for an hour will it charge the battery? If I leave the car standing over the weekend for example, a small drop of oil gathers around the sump plug. So I fitted a new sump plug and haynes says I should tighten it to 30NM which is nothing. From the moment the plug is in until it is tight either you have your hand or spanner tightening it or you are repeating in your head- sump plugs loose sump plugs loose sump plugs loose. (how tight is too tight??!) Use a breaker bar and a proper fitting socket. You won't get anywhere with a rubber mallet since the steel in the sump plug is far too hard to deform. Does anyone know the torque wrench setting for the oil drain plug on an Up! By i have never used a torque setting wrench on a sump plug. The company didn't tighten the plug correctly, or didn't use a proper plug ring / seal (or use one at all). ClubPolo.co.uk is one of the most popular VW sites on the web. We use cookies to give you the best possible experience on our website. Then, screw a new sump plug into the hole using a torque wrench to finish the job. Once it is completely discharged, wipe the screw and plug … Sump plugs loose sump plugs loose sump plugs sump plugs loose. This time, did change it and torqued up proper, leakspots on drive. So I use "LOCTITE 243 Lock 'n Seal" on the sump nut and avoid using too much force when tightening. Unscrew the existing sump plug bolt (counter-clockwise). Don't over tighten your engine oil drain plug. Get your answers by asking now. ? Powered by Invision Community, We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. It could have snapped the head off the bolt, or more usually, cracked the sump … Loud whining noise coming from my car only when my engine is cold. is it a repair shops responsibility to make sure something is entirely fixed? That's it your done. As far as how tight, you’re not tightening a lug nut, go easy. make sure you are turning the bolt in the right direction. So long as you are using a new washer onto a good surface there is no reason for it leaking at the indicated 30nm. p.s. I've had a stilson wrench on it, the air chisel on the edge, hand chisel, it will not budge, last service was at the dealers, some monkey must have swung on the wrench to tighten it. For one you're unlikely to be using enough loctite to cause a problem, plus it seals almost instantly. Not wanting to remove the sump I took a vernier caliper and measured the internal diameter of the stripped sump drain hole. Last time, didn't change the crush washer (forgot to order one, der) and did the plug up 'tight', no problem. Apr 11, 2019 #1 Hi all, is there a value for this anywhere? . you just tighten up to a snug tension and remember this bolt is not holding on … As mentioned if you use a small ratchet (as in a 3/8 inch drive with a handle 6 inches or less long) it will be difficult to over tighten unless you hang out of it. Use a breaker bar and a proper fitting socket. Turn the thread tap clockwise, pushing up gently as you do. Ferriswheel. Valued Member. It is worth using a torque wrench to tighten the sump plug though... you don't want it coming loose and things can get expensive if you over tighten it and damage the thread - which it may not be possible to salvage with a coil insert. (left to loosen, right to tighten). Give it one more 1/4 turn. It is hoped that members of the club will contribute pictures and spec lists of their cars to be published in the gallery and articles on any hints, tips or modifications they have carried out. Step 3 - Tighten Plug with Socket. This can be done by using a helicoil/insert or by rethreading and using a larger sump plug. leaving a patch there. It is important to start the oil drain plug with your fingers, so that you eliminate the possibility of cross-threading the bolt. sumpnut normally hand tight and then turn a bit. 3200 Sump Plug Torque. Still have questions? Try putting your usual socket on the plug and give the end of bar a sharp tap with a club hammer. Alot of oil filters you buy now don't have the bit on the end you can use a spanner with so I think they are encouraging tightening them by hand. Join Date: Jan 2008; Posts: 3326; Location: Share Tweet #2. It's a bit of a feely job;) Dave. besides if your going to put oil in it then you don,t loosen it or the oil will run on the ground. any suggestions as to how to loosen it without stripping the head? An auto mechanic friend suggested a Self Threading Oil Pan Drain Plug. Place a socket onto the oil drain plug and continue tightening it until it is snug on the oil pan. Is that enough or should go the old fashioned way of doing it as tight as it'll go? Copyright © ClubPolo 2020 Replacing timing belt based on mileage or age? How can I best remove it? Step 3 – Replace the Crush Washer. That should do it. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. So I fitted a new sump plug and haynes says I should tighten it to 30NM which is nothing. Remember - Lefty loosey, righty tighty. All that hassle may have some value for if the engine does eventually go pop, it is on record that dealer A failed to tighten the sump plug up, then … So if you are part of a local club bring everyone down and grab a spot in the field. Make sure you tap it going in the proper … I can't find it in the manual, everything but! are you turning it the right way? yes buy a new plug and gasket before you start. Trick I used from doing bikes was, to reuse the copper washer, heat it up on the hob in your kitchen until its glowing red, then allow to air cool. 658 411. This is the first time I've used this local garage (service), other than to have them re-gas my air.con some months back. You can still see where I was parking! Club Polo and the Club Polo website are in no way affiliated with or endorsed by Volkswagen AG or any of it's worldwide subsidiaries or associates. It's easy! Ferriswheel. Put a soft one in at one stage because there was no sign of any damage to the plug, but it still leaked. bit silly! Any info be good thanks Tags: None. use a proper size 6 point socket and long bar .you may have to to beat on the bar with your free hand. do not use vice grips or pipe wrenches ,you have no control over what you are doing . 'nick' them up and its fine. (left to loosen, right to tighten) As for the sump plug, is it really so tight? I've never done an oil filter tighter than hand tight and also never had a problem with them. 658 411. Is there an easy way to unplug the electrical from the purge valve? Spare parts suction filter spa 100 how to change the oil on a bmw f700gs ducati monster oil change horsepower hub sump plug faq diy oil change 2010 dfi 3 8l Tightening An Oil Drain Plug DoityourselfHow To Remove A Stripped Oil Drain PlugHow To Tighten An Oil Drain PlugHow To Remove A … hold the socket tight on the plug. 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